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Persona 4 Arena: Ultimax Spoilers Thread - SHO me your spoilers
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SolarKnight
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Well, not exactly, there's technically still Minazuki/Kagutsuchi
Nah, he's working with Kagutsuchi. And while Ikutsuki isn't back, he is the reason for a lot of Sho's problems.
hmm k...all I know is this isn't that bad anymore.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So anyone know what happens to Elizabeths Quest?
it was never gonna happen. Magician arcana peeps never get the girl.
Hashino explicitly stated in an interview that all Persona games are set in the same continuity. There's a scan of said interview floating around.
AquaWateria
Member
Elizabeth is still continuing her quest in freeing Makoto. And that it has been said she might become a guest of the velvet room. So basically it wasn't resolved in Ultimax and probably will be at some later point. So all we do now is wait for Door-kun
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Elizabeth is still continuing her quest in freeing Makoto. And that it has been said she might become a guest of the velvet room. So basically it wasn't resolved in Ultimax and probably will be at some later point. So all we do now is wait for Door-kun
Wow, so much teasing and nothing happening. I highly doubt Elizabeth quest will continue in P4D.......could it be her quest may indirectly effect P5.
sixteen-bit
Member
Does this game have a rematch feature?
Elizabeth is still continuing her quest in freeing Makoto. And that it has been said she might become a guest of the velvet room. So basically it wasn't resolved in Ultimax and probably will be at some later point. So all we do now is wait for Door-kun
Sophia is right though, Margaret mentioned that Elizabeth's quest may take aeons to complete. Unless they set one game in the very distant future or pull some kind of miracle BS, I don't see Elizabeth finishing her task in the next years.
A Dead Diehard
Member
To be fair, what game in this series DIDN'T end with a miracle?
EDIT:
*BWOOOOOOMMMMM*
I would just like to point out that Shadow Labrys and her role in the story are utterly absurd. She's a shadow, born from an Anti-Shadow Weapon, that somehow managed to survive beyond her own defeat, develop an ego, and summon a goddanm Persona separate from the one that Labrys herself can summon.
I mean it all make sense in context of the story, but that's some Shadow-inception levels there.
I mean it all make sense in context of the story, but that's some Shadow-inception levels there.
I have a theory about why this happened, but I don't want to share it in case it becomes gospel. :|
Xenoflare
Member
It's just a way to keep her in the game while making plot adjustments, but I yeah I agree it's dumb.
Write a big disclaimer, but do it.gif
AquaWateria
Member
Persona is a series that has many miracles and asspulls. So I don't see that being a problem.
"Bring on the ring!" Love that sentence. "I am a Shadow, the true self" levels of awesome.
Just finished the story mode (except for Episode Adachi and Episode P4A). Took me about 12-13 hours. Shorter than P4A's, but that's a good thing because it's far more concise.
Seems that Episode P4 is the canon route, but I much preferred Episode P3. The Shadow Labrys awakening scene where she takes over Labrys' body is one of the best in the game. And the Episode P3 epilogue was miles better than the Episode P4 epilogue chapter.
On one hand, the story seems pretty conclusive in terms of what happens to the P3 and P4 crew after this ends, but they seem to be setting up "Sho's journey isn't over" significantly, so that's interesting. Also, I'm pretty sure that was Igor with a new voice at the start of the story, so I'm surprised he didn't appear anywhere else except for in the beginning. Still not really into how his presence is in the game's opening because of that, heh.
One of my favorite shots for sure:
Edit: Sho will not be the main character of Persona 5. That's ridiculous.
Just finished the story mode (except for Episode Adachi and Episode P4A). Took me about 12-13 hours. Shorter than P4A's, but that's a good thing because it's far more concise.
Seems that Episode P4 is the canon route, but I much preferred Episode P3. The Shadow Labrys awakening scene where she takes over Labrys' body is one of the best in the game. And the Episode P3 epilogue was miles better than the Episode P4 epilogue chapter.
On one hand, the story seems pretty conclusive in terms of what happens to the P3 and P4 crew after this ends, but they seem to be setting up "Sho's journey isn't over" significantly, so that's interesting. Also, I'm pretty sure that was Igor with a new voice at the start of the story, so I'm surprised he didn't appear anywhere else except for in the beginning. Still not really into how his presence is in the game's opening because of that, heh.
One of my favorite shots for sure:
Edit: Sho will not be the main character of Persona 5. That's ridiculous.
Persona 5 is in the same timeline as Persona 3 and Persona 4 according to the new Persona Magazine.
Adds some credibility to that file that names Sho "P5HERO" in Ultimax.
That file might be an attempt to troll data miners, though. Or an attempt to troll everyone BY the data miner himself. Who knows. It's most likely trolling.
Adds some credibility to that file that names Sho "P5HERO" in Ultimax.
That file might be an attempt to troll data miners, though. Or an attempt to troll everyone BY the data miner himself. Who knows. It's most likely trolling.
I don't see how that's necessarily related. Every single Persona game takes place within the same timeline.
Edit: That Shadow Marie stuff is definitely intriguing. Guess unused assets, just like those sound test voice clips in the first game. Heh, speaking of which, they kept the clips of the P4 characters calling out their evolved Personas and the P3 characters calling out their original ones.
That may be just me, but the way it's worded in Japanese feels like a chain to me (no pun intended), like it has deeper connections. I'm just guessing, however.
Ah, so Shadow Marie wasn't used in a one-off story fight? Looks like she might've been cut by a call from Atlus, or she'll be patched in later, etc.
He's no robot.
Huh, even the new P4AU P3 characters have sound clips of them calling out their original Personas. Thought it was just a feature they discarded in P4A a bit late, but then they still recorded those lines for P4AU? Odd stuff.
Edit: Also feel that some Shadows have sound clips that make it sound like they're performing IKs.
Edit: Also feel that some Shadows have sound clips that make it sound like they're performing IKs.
Ikutsuki shoved one into him or something when Sho was young.
Please do, I'm curious as to the theory.
In fact, let me go spread a rumor at the Kurosawa Detective Agency that anyone who takes your word as gospel when you're clearly submitting your own theories will get rainbow colored pimples over their face. >.>
Oh I didn't say it was dumb, just that it was hilariously and utterly absurd. As Flux said, it's one of the best scenes in the game. And I have to agree with Flux that the P3 side is way better, storywise. Better dialogue, better character development, some real tear jerker/heartwarming moments in the epilogue, and a better final fight.
Ikutsuki shoved a Plume of Dusk into him as a means of trying to force a Persona awakening. Instead, it created a second personality and left him a vegetative state, so Ikutsuki discarded him.
One of the older games begs to differ.
Also, I didn't see anyone post it yet, so here's a screenshot of the eboot data for Ultimax. Sho is indexed as "P5HERO." I'm going to laugh if Arue ends up a prophet, too.
Either Atlus is trolling us or someone edited that picture.
As much as I want to be a prophet, I really don't want my prediction to come true. *sweats*
Edit: What about those "Newboss Newboss_"? Couldn't that be for Sho and Minazuki instead?
Not really.
Look what you've done!
SoulUnison
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xTjrDevsZg
It was the JP Igor VA that died, right?
Why do we get a horrible new VA when our Igor was basically perfect?
It was the JP Igor VA that died, right?
Why do we get a horrible new VA when our Igor was basically perfect?
Nintendoga
Member
Ohhhh that's gonna take some getting used to....
He only appears in that one scene, though.
Xenoflare
Member
Oh jeez Igor why.
I loved his English voice
Wait, I recall that Igor still has his old English voice in the character select screen, I assume that in the JP version that scene simply reuses Igor's clips no?
P4U2's dub is going to be a mixed bag. mostly good, but it's going to be mixed
? I mean, there's a linear chronology you can follow between all the games, but there definitely are two timelines.
That could be it, but the guy going through the data said it corresponds to Sho.
That's certainly possible, but considering this is the same guy who's been providing a bulk of the verified information and was the one who first revealed things about Ground Zeroes, it'd be weird for him to slip that in now. Considering his track record, I'm inclined to believe it.
Yeah, that was pretty jarring. It's especially strange since Dan Worren was also Ikutsuki. I know he's not a major presence, but was there any new dialogue recorded for him?
I'm talking generally, not specifically. They all take place within the same universe and context. The events of every single Persona game has had an influence on the subsequent ones.
Wow
.....he sounds very different from P4G X(. I guess this new voice actor is just taking over for the original English one due to the original VA not being able to voice Igor for P4AU (wasn't that the case for Noato too?). If he pops up in P5, then I'm sure his original VA will come back . Besides, this new VA most likely is just getting used to this new role (meaning, with more experience, he will improve in this role
).GloriousBagel
Banned
Love Deterrence
Member
Whoa... Jarring!
Uh... Both sound so bad.
Xenoflare
Member
I don't see anything wrong with the old Igor.....
Or are you talking about the new marge?